 Bob K
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Adorage Transitions End Abruptly. Solutions? (Video example)
Posted: 02 Aug 2006 08:11 PM |
I recently purchased the Adorage MovieMaker Effects packages 1, 2 and 3.
I discovered that most of the transitions in Package 1 and some in Package 2 end abruptly rather than smoothly, as if the .xml was not written to smoothly end the transition. See the video example at:
Adorage Transition Test
I've determined that the abrupt transition ending is not dependent on transition length nor on the quality of the rendered movie. It occurs will low quality movies (the example here) and high quality movies (2.1 Mbps 640x480). I do not experience the problem with other high quality effects (SpiceFX). I don't suspect equipment problems.
Is there a solution to this problem? Or, is this a flaw in the product? Because the transitions are so choppy, I find them almost useless for my movies. |
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jackie
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Re: Adorage Transitions End Abruptly. Solutions? (Video example)
Posted: 02 Aug 2006 08:25 PM |
| Bob, I too noticed this right after I purchased it. In fact there are only a few of the Adorage Transitions that I do use for this same reason. Does anyone out there have a solutions? |
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Re: Adorage Transitions End Abruptly. Solutions? (Video example)
Posted: 02 Aug 2006 08:26 PM |
| I doubt there are any settings in the XML that would be useful, but if you want to post a copy of the Adorage .xml file, we can take a look. Since the XML calls a custom DLL, it's probably the DLL that is failing to finish the transition, not the XML. |
Blaine
Movie Maker (Custom Titles, Effects. etc.)
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jackie
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Re: Adorage Transitions End Abruptly. Solutions? (Video example)
Posted: 02 Aug 2006 09:22 PM |
... ENG_LABEL="into depth"
FXSETTINGS
{
SOURCE_A {
GEOMETRY {
START {
DYNAMIC_ROTATION { TYPE=2 STEAMING=255 }
DYNAMIC_SCALEH { TYPE=2 STEAMING=255 }
DYNAMIC_SCALEV { TYPE=2 STEAMING=255 }
}
END {
ROTATION=98304 SCALE_X=0 SCALE_Y=0
}
}
}
L0_MOREFRAMES = 15
DIFFUSOR { SOFT=13107 ROTATION=-1556 BORLEFT=15728 BORRIGHT=17694 BORTOP=18350 BORBOTTOM=20316}
MODE_PLAIN
ALPHA_MSK {
IMAGE { FILE="mixer-image\\Special\\100%.TIF" }
GEOMETRY {
START {
SCALE_X=62547 SCALE_Y=62547
DYNAMIC_ROTATION { TYPE=2 STEAMING=255 }
DYNAMIC_SCALEH { TYPE=2 STEAMING=255 }
DYNAMIC_SCALEV { TYPE=2 STEAMING=255 }
}
END {
ROTATION=65536 SCALE_X=0 SCALE_Y=0
}
}
}
LEVEL=65535
}
...
ENG_LABEL="Counter-motion"
FXSETTINGS
{
SOURCE_A {
GEOMETRY {
START {
ROTATION=65536
}
}
}
L0_MOREFRAMES = 10
DIFFUSOR { SOFT=6554 BORLEFT=27525 BORRIGHT=27525 BORTOP=43253 BORBOTTOM=26214}
MODE_PLAIN
ALPHA_MSK {
IMAGE { FILE="mixer-image\\Special\\100%.TIF" }
GEOMETRY {
END {
ROTATION=65536 SCALE_X=0 SCALE_Y=0
}
}
}
LEVEL=65535
}
}
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jackie
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Re: Adorage Transitions End Abruptly. Solutions? (Video example)
Posted: 02 Aug 2006 09:23 PM |
| I hope this is what you were referring to. |
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Re: Adorage Transitions End Abruptly. Solutions? (Video example)
Posted: 02 Aug 2006 09:58 PM |
Well, I'm lost...
This isn't an .xml file, but Adorage must use this separate data file to control things. Since I don't have Adorage, can you give the name of the transitions you thought were abrupt? |
Blaine
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jackie
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Re: Adorage Transitions End Abruptly. Solutions? (Video example)
Posted: 02 Aug 2006 10:07 PM |
Sorry, I guess I'm lost too..a couple names are Adorage01_2d:into depth and Adorage 01_2d Contrary. Hope this helps!
Thanks.
P.S. Is there anyway for me to remove the file I copied into this site? |
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jackie
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Re: Adorage Transitions End Abruptly. Solutions? (Video example)
Posted: 03 Aug 2006 09:40 PM |
| Thank you. |
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Bob K
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Solution from Adorage
Posted: 16 Aug 2006 01:14 PM |
Wow. What great customer service from Adorage. They sent me a decent solution about 3 days after I emailed them. It appears to be a problem with one of the .dll files within the program. Adorage sent the following replacement file. It hasn't total fixed the problem, but it's a step in the right direction.
If you have the Adorage packs, I recommend you give Adorage feedback and encouragement. They seem exceptionally willing to come up with a solution.
Here's a summary of the conversation so far. Notice the directory where you need to install the replacement .dll file.
On second thought, I can't seem to post the file. I'll try to post it next week unless someone can host it here somewhere.
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Dear Bob,
here is the new DLL.
This one is optimized for 2.0sec. duration.
All non-somke effects are runs with any durations.
Only the somke-effects are adjusted.
Because Movie Maker use non-frame-based rendering and for this is the change.
Other NLE like Adobe Premiere don't need this change.
Note:
The best results gets DV-Pal or DV-Ntsc.
Results like "Pocket ..." are not so good.
Best regards,
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Thomas Weber
proDAD GmbH - Support
www.prodad.com
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> Thomas,
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> First of all, thank you for the incredible customer support and your
> willingness to fix this problem. You can be sure I will post positive
> feedback in the www.windowsmoviemakers.net forums.
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> I installed the new dll as directed. I noticed a marginal improvement in
> the smoothness of transitions within the same Adorage Transition Test
> movie,
> mostly with the longest transition lengths. Even the long transition
> lengths still noticeably "turn off" rather than fading away at the very
> end.
> The shorter transition lengths showed no improvement and still "turn off"
> rather than fading out.
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> I appreciate the fact that longer transition lengths will help with the
> problem; however, I rarely use transition lengths greater than 2 seconds.
> My desire is to have transitions that fade out smoothly regardless of how
> short or how long the transition length is.
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> Can you continue to improve the program files? Whatever you did, it looks
> like you're on the right path.
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> Sincerely,
>
> Bob K
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> Dear Bob,
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> we have a solution [beta].
> Please unzip the attached file and copy it into "C:\Program
> Files\AdorageI-SAL".
> This will replace the old one.
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> The effects are with smoke and need a longer duration as no-smoke effects.
> For good results take a duration to 2.5sec. or better 3.0sec.
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> Please get me a feedback.
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> Best regards,
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> Thomas Weber
> proDAD GmbH - Support
> www.prodad.com
>
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> Dear ProDad,
>
> I recently purchased the Adorage MovieMaker Effects packages 1, 2 and 3.
>
> I discovered that most of the transitions in Package 1 and some in Package
> 2 end abruptly rather than smoothly, as if the .xml was not written to
> smoothly end the transition. It's as if they just "turn off" at the last
> half second rather than smoothly ending. See the video example at:
>
> Adorage Transition Test
>
> (home.vafb.net/~rgknowlton/Adorage_Transition_Test.wmv)
>
> I've determined that the abrupt transition ending is not dependent on
> transition length nor on the quality of the rendered movie. It occurs with
> low quality movies (the example here) and high quality movies (2.1 Mbps
> 640x480). I don't mean to compare; however, I do not experience the
> problem with other high quality commercial effects like Pixelan's SpiceFX. I have
> a high end computer and don't suspect equipment problems.
>
> Is there a solution to this problem? Or, is this a flaw in the product?
> Because the transitions are so choppy, I find them almost useless for my
> movies.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Bob K
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Bob K
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Re: Solution from Adorage
Posted: 16 Aug 2006 07:09 PM |
My webhost is back up. Here is the link to the beta fix for Adorage transitions that end abruptly. Again, Adorage had lightening quick customer service and seemed very willing to create a solution, so I recommend you continue giving them feedback about the fix.
Adorage Transition Fix
Unzip the .dll and copy it into your "C:\Program Files\AdorageI-SAL" folder. You'll be copying over the original file.
This is a BETA, so you may wish to make a copy of the original .dll before you overwrite it. |
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Re: Solution from Adorage
Posted: 16 Aug 2006 11:20 PM |
| nice efforts and postings Bob and Jackie... I just swapped out my DLL, checked it and see it works better... and added a note on my Setup MM2 in XP > Other Software page, with a link to this forum thread. |
... my website isn't here... it's at www.papajohn.org
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