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Zach Pearce is not online. Last active: 7/22/2004 11:11:49 PM Zach Pearce
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Green Screen Capability
Posted: 22 Jul 2004 11:11 PM
It would be cool if you could use a green screen to put images behind you on a video...
j10 is not online. Last active: 1/13/2005 10:40:13 PM j10
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 13 Jan 2005 10:38 PM
maybe someone can create an effect of his own with this information:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/en-us/directx9_c/directx/htm/keytransition.asp

i don't know how to do this kind of stuff, but it seems possible to me.
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 19 Jan 2005 10:39 PM
The software, Pinnacle Studio 9 plus, has this effect. I seems like Movie Maker decided that great at one time was good enough and not to continue to improve. It is quickly dropping down in the ratings as far as I can see.
jeb314 is not online. Last active: 2/5/2007 11:36:48 PM jeb314
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 21 Jan 2005 06:22 PM
This effect acts as a green screen:

<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0">
<Transitions>
<TransitionDLL guid="{C5B19592-145E-11D3-9F04-006008039E37}" >
<Transition name="Greenscreen" iconid="11">
<Param name="KeyType" value="0" />
<Param name="RGB" value="0x00FF00" />
</Transition>
</TransitionDLL>
</Transitions>
</TransitionsAndEffects>

Put your background first, your fore ground second, and drag this transition between them. Then you stretch it to the length of both clips.
huntert93 is not online. Last active: 3/6/2005 6:19:50 PM huntert93
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 05 Mar 2005 03:42 PM
how do I put:

<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0">
<Transitions>
<TransitionDLL guid="{C5B19592-145E-11D3-9F04-006008039E37}" >
<Transition name="Greenscreen" iconid="11">
<Param name="KeyType" value="0" />
<Param name="RGB" value="0x00FF00" />
</Transition>
</TransitionDLL>
</Transitions>
</TransitionsAndEffects>

as a transition? what do I do?
jeb314 is not online. Last active: 2/5/2007 11:36:48 PM jeb314
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 05 Mar 2005 07:55 PM
Copy the text into notepad and save it as a .xml in this folder:
C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared\AddOnTFX
When you open movie maker, Greenscreen should appear as a transition in the transition folder.
Now, in your timeline you put your background picture first, and your foreground picture right after it. Then you drag the greenscreen transition between them, and stretch it to the length of both clips. It merges the two, but it is not perfect.
Movie-maker is not online. Last active: 9/16/2005 5:53:12 AM Movie-maker
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 01 Aug 2005 05:46 PM
Hi

I tried doing that but it didn't work. Do you know if there is a little add on that I could download and it would allow me to do the chroma effect (this is when it takes the blue/green/red background away) then you can swap it with a different background. Or if there isn't anything like that, do you know any one who would/could make it. I am very keen. Thanks :- ) Hope to hear from you soon

Thanks






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Rehan is not online. Last active: 5/8/2012 5:49:17 PM Rehan
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 02 Aug 2005 07:24 PM
It does work. But requires exact color match.

Try the Non-Red key type chorma for more wide range of key colors:

<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0">
<Transitions>
<TransitionDLL guid="{C5B19592-145E-11D3-9F04-006008039E37}" >
<Transition name="Non-Red chroma key" iconid="11">
<Param name="KeyType" value="1" />
</Transition>
</TransitionDLL>
</Transitions>
</TransitionsAndEffects>


As usual copy paste the xml code into notepad and use File->Save As to save as nonred.xml extension in folder C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared\AddOnTFX. Create the AddOnTFX folder if necessary. Confirm the file has .xml extension by turning off the "hide extensions of known file types" from Explorer > Tools > Folder options > View. Restart WMM.



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Movie-maker is not online. Last active: 9/16/2005 5:53:12 AM Movie-maker
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 03 Aug 2005 01:25 AM
Lol, hmmm im not sure what I'm doing wrong. Could you please send the note pad (with that stuff on it) to seb00713@gmail.com

Is there any visual tutorials on it?

P.S. Do you know if there is a reverse effect, if there is could you please send it to me too

Thanks

:- )
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 04 Aug 2005 11:51 AM
As far as the non-red key transition goes, let's start
with the very basics. After you add it as described by
Rehan above, it should show up in your list of transitions.

Soooo....2 questions.
#1) Is it in your list?
#2)If you click on it, does the preview show clouds in the desert?

If the answer to both questions is yes, then you are in business,
and we can move on with the next step.


dlk
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 11 Aug 2005 02:27 AM
I'm so sorry that I didn't reply sooner, I've just been rather busy- but yes it does come up and show the desert etc.

Thanks :-)

Seb
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 29 Nov 2005 12:55 AM
I am trying the same thing as the person earlier in this posting and can not see the non-red or a non-green in my transition list.

I copied the lines of code directly and saved the file as a .xml in the directory stated, though mine is on the D:\ as that is where my WinXP lives. I have a Win2K on C:\
I did have to make the D:\Program Files\Movie Maker\shared\AddOnTFX directory, as it did not exist before.

Any ideas here?
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 30 Nov 2005 02:41 PM
Which transition did you copy? If you tried to put both in a single file, you might have problems. Try saving each one separately and see if that helps. If possible, post a copy of what your .xml file(s) looks like.

Also, to clarify, your Windows Movie Maker program (under XP) is installed in D:\Program Files\Movie Maker... correct? When you look at the link that starts Movie Maker, that's where it goes to, yes? And the Shared folder was already there, so all you had to do was add a AddOnTFX folder, correct?

If you go to the AddOnTFX folder, does the .xml file appear with an icon that has a couple < brackets > and a globe between them? If not, then it didn't really get saved as an .xml file. It also helps to have your file extensions turned on (View > Folder Options > Show File Extensions)

-=Blaine=-

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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 30 Nov 2005 07:00 PM
And for that reverse effect you wanted visit thispage of Rehan's website Click Here

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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 20 Dec 2005 10:28 PM
This chroma keying method doesn't seem to work for me. There's absolutely no tolerance for the colour, if your RGB is 0, 254, 0 it doesn't work, I tried it...
On PapaJohn's tutorial he demonstrates the blue chroma key but the screen in the video he uses definitely isn't a perfect 0, 0, 255, yet it still works. I even saved his demonstration video and tried the blue chroma key on it and it still didn't work.

Am I doing something wrong?
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 20 Dec 2005 10:37 PM
I found a way to increase the tolerance of the chroma keyer, you can add an extra parameter

<Param name="Similarity" value="x" />

where x is any value from 0 - 100 and is the amount each RGB number can be off the given value. The results are decent...is there a better way?
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 20 Dec 2005 10:47 PM
ok one final thing before waiting for a reply, now whenever I try it the first frame works out fine but once I start playing it the colours go insane. Maybe my previous suggestion isn't so good :-)
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 06 Jan 2006 09:24 PM
Hi there,

I've tried many different transitions coping and pasting into notepad and saving as an xml file, but none have appeared on my transitions listing in Windows Movie Maker.

I added the AddOnTFX folder...I'm sure that the files that I'm adding are xml files (they appear as the globe/brackets icon...but still it won't work...

What am I doing wrong? I'm using Movie Maker 2.1...
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 06 Jan 2006 09:33 PM
Can you give an example of one that you are trying to get working? Post the XML here and I can tell you where you should find it and possibly why it isn't working.

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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 07 Jan 2006 08:04 AM
Here's a screen capture of the folder I have it in:

http://www.obsessionnetwork.com/spanish/Image1.gif

and here's a capture of the text in the "nonred" file (the transition that I want):

http://www.obsessionnnetwork.com/spanish/Image2.gif
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 07 Jan 2006 08:06 AM
Wrong urls..sorry:

http://www.obsessionnetwork.com/spanish/Image1.gif

http://www.obsessionnetwork.com/spanish/Image2.gif
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 12 Jan 2006 09:38 AM
Anyone...? I know I'm not doing this incorrectly--that is, creating the xml file. I'm thinking there must be some other software issue -- do you think it could have anything to do with service pack 2?
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 12 Jan 2006 11:27 AM
Are you seeing Rehan's Pan & Zoom effects inside WMM? I see those in your same directory. Are you sure that folder is called 'AddOnTFX' under your C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared folder? Could Movie Maker be installed in a different folder? What path does it show under the properties for the Movie Maker icon?

-=Blaine=-

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alexrivadeneira is not online. Last active: 1/14/2006 9:41:40 PM alexrivadeneira
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 12 Jan 2006 06:14 PM
- Rehan's effects work fine

- Double checked "AddOnTFX" -- perfect

- here's the exact directory, copy and pasted: C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared\AddOnTFX

- the target location for my start menu shortcut to movie maker is, copy and pasted:"C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\moviemk.exe" --- plus, I've even tried this opening the program directly from the program files folder...still doesn't work
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Re: Green Screen Capability
Posted: 12 Jan 2006 07:23 PM
So when you go to 'Video Transitions' you don't see one called 'Non-Red chroma key'? You're positive?

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