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marco-m is not online. Last active: 6/4/2005 7:33:12 PM marco-m
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rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 07 May 2005 05:49 PM
I have shot video rotated 90 degrees. I can apply the rotate effect to right up the image. However the image is deformed (appears wider than it should be) because I cannot "squeeze" the frames to retain the same aspect ratio it was shot with. It seems that without this capability the rotate function would be pretty useless, so I imagine I must be missing something. Any thoughts? Thanks
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Re: rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 07 May 2005 06:19 PM
welcome to the forum... you're not missing something. You need to do something special.

I take the clip to VirtualDub and do the rotating, cropping and resizing needed to maintain the aspect ratio of the rotated video... then bring it back into Movie Maker.

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Re: rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 07 May 2005 07:41 PM
Or do the rotation within Movie Maker by using my rotate effects which preserve the aspect ratio:

<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0" >
<Effects>
<EffectDLL guid="{B4DC8DD9-2CC1-4081-9B2B-20D7030234EF}">
<Effect name="Rotate Right" iconid="24" >
<Param name="InternalName" value="Simple3D" />
<Param name="RotateA" value="right" />
<Param name="Progress" value="0.25" />
</Effect>
<Effect name="Rotate Left" iconid="23" >
<Param name="InternalName" value="Simple3D" />
<Param name="RotateA" value="left" />
<Param name="Progress" value="0.25" />
</Effect>
<Effect name="Rotate Right Fit" iconid="24" >
<Param name="InternalName" value="Simple3D" />
<Param name="RotateA" value="right" />
<Param name="ScaleA" value="0.75" />
<Param name="InitialScaleA" value="0.75" />
<Param name="Progress" value="0.25" />
</Effect>
<Effect name="Rotate Left Fit" iconid="23" >
<Param name="InternalName" value="Simple3D" />
<Param name="RotateA" value="left" />
<Param name="ScaleA" value="0.75" />
<Param name="InitialScaleA" value="0.75" />
<Param name="Progress" value="0.25" />
</Effect>
</EffectDLL>
</Effects>
</TransitionsAndEffects>


Copy paste the xml code into notepad and Save as rotate.xml in folder C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared\AddOnTFX. Create the AddOnTFX folder if necessary. Restart WMM.


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marco-m is not online. Last active: 6/4/2005 7:33:12 PM marco-m
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Re: rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 08 May 2005 02:15 AM
Rehan AND Papajohn thank you both. It sounds like Rehan's solution fixes this issue directly but from what I have read around here virtualdub seems to be a bag of tricks for many issues. thank you both
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Re: rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 11 May 2005 10:18 PM
Rehan
I have used your rotation script very successfully, thank you.
However I also discovered that I messed up some of my original videos with other programs (not virtualdub, which seems to work fine) so that now I cannot rotate, instead I need to change the aspect of height/width dimensions without rotation. What would the script be for that?
Where may I find references to create/edit filter scripts on my own?
Thanks for the help
mm

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Re: rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 12 May 2005 08:24 AM
To adjust the aspect ratio easisit I can think is PIP Plus.

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Re: rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 11 Mar 2006 05:53 PM
Hi,

Papa John, I tried your technique outlined in your newsletter. I rotated and resized in Virtualdub to 240 wide, 320 high. I saved the .avi from Virtualdub. When I play the .avi, it looks fine, but when I import it into Movie Maker, even though the thumbnail shows correctly in the collections, the preview shows it as 320 wide, 240 high. When I save it in Movie Maker, the save wizard shows the dimensions 320 x 240. When I play the resulting .wmv, it is 320 wide, 240 high, so the image is distorted (too wide).

I'm a brand new user of Movie Maker and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks,
Susie
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Re: rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 11 Mar 2006 11:32 PM
Hi Susie... it's unusual to be looking for a 240 pixel wide by 320 high... here are a few things to try to confuse you.

Movie Maker previews, when the setting is standard 4:3 aspect ratio, are always 320x240... the saved movie will be what your profile selection is... if you want 240x320 you need a custom profile.

The view in the player will depend on the player...

What is your final home for a 240x340 pixel video? Is that the size you really want?

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Re: rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 04 Apr 2006 09:14 PM
Hi PapaJohn,

Sorry for such a long break before a response.

I'm totally new to this video thing. The video is of a squirrel trying to climb up my bird feeder pole. I took it with my digital camera, but had to turn the camer on end to get all of the pole. Therefore my video is taller than wide.

The end result I'm trying to get is to put the video on a webpage. I believe the format that will work on most browsers is .wmv, which is what Movie Maker creates. I want the viewer on my page to be smaller than what I see when I play my 480 x 640 movie, so I assume that means I want the end video to be 240 x 320, which would be half the size.

Is the correct procecure to rotate and delete unwanted frames in VirtualDub, then open the resulting .avi in Movie Maker, use a custom profile as you mentioned, and save it as a .wmv? Or is there an easier way to get my vertical movie on a webpage?

TIA,
Susie
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Re: rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 04 Apr 2006 11:47 PM
just do the rotate 90 or 270 in Movie Maker and save it using a custom profile of the dimensions you want.... no need to go to Virtual Dub.

it'll look distorted during the editing process but the saved movie should look fine in a browser window that fixes the size. WMP10 will show it distorted too but WMP11 in Vista won't... how it's viewed will depend on the player.

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Re: rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 27 Aug 2006 05:21 PM
Windows Movie Maker has to be the worst piece of software I have ever tried to use, typical Microsoft make it technical and difficult to understand, no wonder so many of us do anything to avoid their stuff.
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Re: rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 07 Mar 2007 11:17 PM
what do you recommend???

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Re: rotate 90 or 270 without distortion
Posted: 04 Aug 2009 10:01 PM
Rehan,

I had the same problem and when I googled my question, I found this same thread I posted to three years ago.

This time I tried your effect and it worked perfectly.

Thanks!!

--Susie
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