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Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 09 Feb 2006 10:05 PM
Hitthebongo and whoever else cares..

I was wrong...this can be done. I am also thinking it must have
been done before. Certainly Effectinverse is old news.
You need to change the XML reflect the GIF or PNG or WMF desired.
Also change the zoom parms to make it bigger or smaller
You could probably get a moving object with text etched into it.
I can think of a couple different applications for this...
the old gears are grinding.

<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0">
<Titles>
<TitleDLL guid="{353359C1-39E1-491b-9951-464FD8AB071C}">
<Title name="Moving overlay - van" iconid="13" >
<Param name="InternalName" value="TitleStandard"/>
<Param name="Description" value="Overlay moves across screen"/>
<Paragraph>
<Param name="MainEffect" value="EffectInverse"/>
<Param name="EntranceZoom" value="1.0 1.0"/>
<Param name="MainZoom" value="1.0 1.0"/>
<Param name="ExitZoom" value="1.0 1.0"/>
<Param name="FillBitmapFilename" value="van.wmf"/>
<Param name="FillBitmapEntrancePosition" value="-0.5 0.7"/>
<Param name="FillBitmapExitPosition" value="1.5 0.7"/>
</Paragraph>
</Title>
</TitleDLL>
</Titles>
</TransitionsAndEffects>


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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 11 Feb 2006 12:55 AM
I'm one who cares.... I've been looking forward to the next breakthrough for image overlays... that of one with motion... I haven't seen it, or I missed it.

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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 11 Feb 2006 07:01 AM
I spen ove an hour tryingto figure that one out hmm cn you tell more , in a step by step please or is this going to be a test.

I see the title and credits and it say moving overlay-van moves accorss screen.
and I understand you used the wipe from riht. but that is all I can do,
Pleaseshare in more of a break down thank you? I luv the effects or tranition you did and it is super helpful for vids



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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 11 Feb 2006 09:28 AM
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be obtuse. I was at least attempting to
give you everything you needed, except the image. I figured
you would want to use your own image specific to your project.
So let me try to be more verbose...certainly one talent I have.

Ok...
The FillBitmapFilename parm refers to an image in your
"C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared" directory. It doesn't
have to be there, but that is the default and if it is located
somewhere else, you need to specify the compete path. If
you are lazy like me(another talent of mine), just put in there
and specify only the name.ext
This image would be used as the background fill for your text,
which is how the "paint drip" title is done, and has been used in
custom titles like blood drip and metal titles(which seems to
shimmer.) So we know that the fillbitmap has movement.
That is how the paint drips...the bitmap moves downward in
the background, changing what we see in the text.
Note that above I said "would be used" as the background.
The effectinverse parm changes all that. The background
becomes the foreground and the text becomes the fill.
Now our fillbitmap has become like an overlay...but yet it
will move with any movement we give the bitmap. And
transparent images are supported, so we can have a little
van with a transparent background move across the screen.
And you can create this title as an overlay, on the title overlay
track, so your little van will move across your video.

Fillbitmapentranceposition and Fillbitmapexitpostion control
the beginning and ending positions.

The entrancezoom, mainzoon, and exitzoom control the
size of the image. Depending on the size of the image you
you may want to adjust those. I got some of my images
from Microsoft's clipart library, so I couldn't control the size
of the wmf file, but with the zoom parms I could control the
size on the screen.

Now...to clean up a few odds and ends.
Why do I want text as fill ? You don't. This trick is really only
to get a moving object...to add a cute animation. Just type
in a space in the text box, and text will not be an issue. If you
leave the text color white, the image will look exact. As you change
the text color, the image will change shades. Black will darken it.
You can make it less opaque by moving the transparency slider.
Animated GIFs are not supported...

So I think that about covers it. Hope this helps.

dlk
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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 11 Feb 2006 12:45 PM
thanks Dave for one of today's homework assignments.... the possibilities are swimming around saying "try me, try me"..

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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 11 Feb 2006 01:43 PM
here's the result of my first test....

Sample Moving Image Overlay

41 seconds... 4+ MB file


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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 11 Feb 2006 02:02 PM
Very nice! And I am glad to see it worked as advertised.
Since you can overlay overlays...you could even have
2 ships passing in the night. Or is that too sappy?

dlk
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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 11 Feb 2006 02:29 PM
yup.... another set of endless possibilities.... nothing's too sappy for me

I posted to SimplyDV and the newsgroup.... I'll be adding the tip to my set of Tips and Tricks there, and tucking it into my website someplace.... and I see another newsletter coming up with a tutorial.... and... and... and having fun playing with it.


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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 01:22 AM
I added some info to my Editing Movies > Text > Custom Overlays page... giving credit to the hackers on this forum. I played with it a bit more tonight and developed a 'postioning guide' to help understand what numbers to use when you want to move something from one place to another...

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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 07:00 AM
I am still lost guess I am not an expert at this so be it. lol



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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 12:42 PM
for today's exercise in getting the positioning co-ordinates down.... I got some pets for my office....

Some Birds

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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 02:29 PM
Pj the snow is coming down again and I am inside got some time to try this out but can you do step by step to get this going for me thanxa million if not I understand. oldschool must be out and new school is in.



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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 02:58 PM
I don't have any step by step instructions. I'm going to do a step by step tutorial on it in one of my newsletters, maybe the one after next.... but it won't be online for open viewing for a few months. Until then, just ask specific questions and I or others will respond.

It's snowing here too....

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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 03:18 PM
so in order for me to get this working I ned to understand the xml codes . (top secret information to beginners)

1. I copy it to note pad and all I get is a blank screen. ha ha ha. funny..................
I understand the 4th line "moving overlay-van can bechanged to something I can find easier if I make my overlays by a number file system I can find a lot easier.......

2. now why I get no pictureis it b/c <Param name="FillBitmapFilename" value="van.wmf"/>
that is missing for me and I need to change it to my file
I am kinda getting the idea as i look at it.

So my question is how the heck do I get it to work? All I get is a black screen?
Please help out thank you. and if i am helped out I may just make my own tuterial for the beginners. I am not the best nor the worst person but need help on a expert overlay.
I rate this 5 out of 5 and I am a 1 out of 5



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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 03:24 PM
see the Editing Movies > Text > Custom Overlays page of my website.... I have the steps listed at the bottom of that page.... it says:

The 3 condors are from a single still picture of them flying over the Grand Canyon... the steps to doing this are: crop each out > make the background transparent > save as PNG files > use as title animations in Movie Maker with custom xml code.

Not quite top secret info hidden to anyone... more like 'available to anyone who wants to put the learning into figuring it out'... I just started my learning about this topic yesterday...

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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 03:28 PM
.... more of how I did mine.... you might use different tools:

1 - crop each bird out - IrfanView
2 - make the background transparent - Paint.NET with the magic wand
3 - save as PNG files - Paint.NET after making transparent
4 - use as title animations in Movie Maker with custom xml code - make your xml file point to the bird PNG files

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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 04:07 PM
Pj I found the page
I understand how to do a .png and transparant using my own software.I need to work on your page and see what I can make out of it. will take some time fooling around. thanx a million
when i say top secret its just that usbeginners never get pas the first steps Lol we need to look furhter into the pages of win movie maker forum. just do not like to be directed to a post and forgotten about



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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 04:20 PM
I gotdirected right back here hmmmmmmm
let me try to explain.

1 I made a .png file of a picture a square does not make a difference at this point (practice)
2 I totally understand make transparant background like the starter kit overlay. 10 overlays.
3 when you say use as title animations in wmm wih xml code I am lost................?
does that mean I go to title and credits and chose the moving van and open it up to the overlay line (which is BLANK) I am lost right there



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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 04:35 PM
I think that this should work very similar to your George project.
Just put the name of your george image in place of the van image.
You should see george somewhere on the screen and he should move
as you play the preview. He may not be right sized, and it may
look strange to see that rectangle move across the screen, but
it should give you an idea of what it does.

dlk

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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 04:37 PM
the first post in this thread is the xml code.... from dlk.... that's what I'm using.... tweak it to point to your square image, and tweak it to define the starting and ending points for the square....

just tweak these 3 lines of Dave's code

<Param name="FillBitmapFilename" value="van.wmf"/>>>>> my bird.png, your square.png
<Param name="FillBitmapEntrancePosition" value="-0.5 0.7"/>>>>> starting point
<Param name="FillBitmapExitPosition" value="1.5 0.7"/>>>>> ending point

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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 05:03 PM
I am a step further.
I now know how to change moving -van overlay to testing so I can locate theeffect easier.
1 I now am tryingto change the van.wmf out to ****.png
I am able to see just the video I got up, so I know I am a step closer
I triedadding Pj overlay in there named
<Param name="FillBitmapFilename" value="overlay04.png" but I get just a video no picture of the effect?
that is the only thing I changed the title and the wmf line
will work on it after din din thanx for the starting point
I knew I was on the right track. but the dam Pc hasa mind of its wn thanx a million, I will still be having questions to I get it right.



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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 05:54 PM
car 10 secs"
DLK, POPAJOHN, THANKYOU!

I appriciate all the hard work and the time to help me out, I truely mean that you are thebest!
Now let me explain what I did not do/ and it may or may not be my fault but my pc (a.i.)

I am new to xml. and learning. just 15 inchs of snow froze my brain , like a slurpie freeze Lol

How I made the effect t owork

1.
<Title name="Moving overlay - van" iconid="13" >
"testing overlay"
I learned to change the name to identify my title overlay in the title and credits . they may be found depending on your effects (how many you have up) on the one line title.

2 PopaJohn tells me to rename these param I leave alone for my test pattern

<Param name="EntranceZoom" value="1.0 1.0"/>
<Param name="MainZoom" value="1.0 1.0"/>
<Param name="ExitZoom" value="1.0 1.0"/>

<Param name="FillBitmapFilename" value="van.wmf"/>
"car.png"
I learn to rename the van to the picture I have called car.png and I need to place this in the
c:/my comp/programs/moviemaker/shared/ if missing will not work as well as van.wmf is not on my pc I will get a blank picture.

3. now I restart wmm and import a vid and go to title and credits. I edit and locate testing overlay, Bam the car goes accross the screen with 1.8 secs

4. be careful about typing a character up it will show. I extend my overlay and watch my test sample.

Below is the tranition and if you take note if I knew how to highlightthe sections this would have helped my confusion big time . I learned alot I bet if I followed Pj's advice to set the param's to 5.0.5.0 etc i would get a different effect.
thanx a million guys you are the best
I owe you a video but being solo is had to film.
<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0">
<Titles>
<TitleDLL guid="{353359C1-39E1-491b-9951-464FD8AB071C}">
<Title name="place your title here" iconid="13" >
<Param name="InternalName" value="TitleStandard"/>
<Param name="Description" value="Overlay moves across screen"/>
<Paragraph>
<Param name="MainEffect" value="EffectInverse"/>
<Param name="EntranceZoom" value="1.0 1.0"/> place your param here delete b4 saving
<Param name="MainZoom" value="1.0 1.0"/> place your param here delete b4 saving
<Param name="ExitZoom" value="1.0 1.0"/> place your param here delete b4 saving
<Param name="FillBitmapFilename" value="place your file extention here"/>
<Param name="FillBitmapEntrancePosition" value="-0.5 0.7"/>
<Param name="FillBitmapExitPosition" value="1.5 0.7"/>
</Paragraph>
</Title>
</TitleDLL>
</Titles>
</TransitionsAndEffects>





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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 13 Feb 2006 04:04 PM
Today's exploring is using a moving overlay for something like credits.... tweaking the overlay image size and the positioning to get this sample:

Moving Overlay - Text

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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 13 Feb 2006 10:38 PM
Cool. Now my question is..."Is the text part of the MM title?"
Someone was looking for a way to do that..moving overlay and text.
I am guessing that your text was integrated into the overlay outside of MM.
If not..do tell how to get the text...


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Re: Title with a moving overlay.
Posted: 14 Feb 2006 12:12 AM
You're guessing right... the whole moving part is a single file of text and images... made in Paint.NET.... that still leaves room for MM2 text on the video track and overlapping text overlays....

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