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Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 13 Jan 2006 09:02 PM
Here's an improved version of the Bluescreen (aka Chroma non-red) transition...

A few improvements:
1) Changed the similarity to its highest value (100) to get as many shades of blue as possible
2) Added Progress value = 0.0 to stop the blue screen from fading out at the end.
3) Renamed it to "Bluescreen" for all those confused about what "non-red" meant.
4) Changed the icon (now a pale blue rectangle)

Here's the improved "bluescreen" XML:

<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0" >
<Transitions>
<TransitionDLL guid="{C5B19592-145E-11D3-9F04-006008039E37}" >
<Transition name="Bluescreen" iconid="12" comment="Makes first clip show through blue areas of second clip">
<Param name="KeyType" value="1"/>
<Param name="Similarity" value="100"/>
<Param name="Progress" value="0.0"/>
</Transition>
</TransitionDLL>
</Transitions>
</TransitionsAndEffects>


As before, first make sure you have a C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared\AddOnTFX folder; if not create one.
Copy the code above into Notepad (Start > All Programs > Accessories > Notepad)
Save the file into C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared\AddOnTFX as bluescreen.xml.

When you restart WMM, you should have a new transition called Bluescreen. To use it:
1) Put your background image (or clip) on the timeline first. Make sure it is longer than the clip to be "bluescreened".
2) Put the bluescreen video clip next (footage in front of a bluescreen).
3) Put the "Bluescreen" transition between the two.
4) Grab the left edge of the bluescreen transition and move it as far as possible to the left (but not all the way or you'll lose it).

When you view it, you'll see the background clip showing through the blue areas of the foreground clip. It will probably be necessary to save the movie and reimport it to remove the few extra frames at the beginning before the bluescreen transition starts.

-=Blaine=-

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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 29 Jan 2006 10:35 PM
Thanks for the update it is much better now without the fading
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 31 Jan 2006 07:01 AM
Thats a good improvement... I wonder if the Progress=0 trick would also fix the KeyType=0 (RGB chroma key) issues with Similarity parameter... Something to try at home tonight !!! :)

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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 31 Jan 2006 06:21 PM
Thanks Blaine it works much better than the old one and taking out the fade is great.

"Microsoft is plagued wth some sort of conspiracy and silence sourounding certain subjects..."
(When contacted for a reply Microsoft said,) "........ MIcrosoft does not comment on such rumours...."
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 31 Jan 2006 06:59 PM
works great Blaine!!!!... thanks

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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 31 Jan 2006 09:22 PM
Ok, I'll be the voice of dissent(cause that's what I do best)
and say I don't think this works any different to what I have
posted a number of times, and I think maybe NPD was the first
to post way back in April '05 . view post 14150
Progress works, and that is important. However, similarity of 100 or 0
or leaving it off doesn't seem to matter for non-red.
As far as using the progress PARM to fix KeyType=0 versions, I tried
that a long time ago...no such luck.


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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 01 Feb 2006 12:22 AM
Okay, so I rediscovered it... but it seems that lots of people have been trying to use the set of Chroma transitions from the wmmarchive.tk site which didn't have the progress parameter.

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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 01 Feb 2006 12:58 AM
... and it worked great for me maybe because I hardly ever use it... but I decided to try Blaine's formula... and it worked great!!!

maybe the others would have worked equally well...

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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 01 Feb 2006 07:24 AM
Agreed, this combination is about as good as it gets. But when the
top three poster give it the seal of approval, I couldn't resist saying
"wait a minute...I know I have been using that for a long time, and
I know I have posted it a number of times, as well as others."
But other versions have been posted, so it can't hurt to have a
definitive version.
You should know me by now, when someone mentions bluescreen...
I come running, even if I don't post a comment.
And I still think the 2 biggest problems are getting a clean background,
and way MM2 renders the edges. Maybe Vista will fix the latter.

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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 14 Feb 2006 08:12 PM
sry but how exactly does this work? What do I have to do to make the bluescreen work?
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 15 Feb 2006 03:49 AM
1 you need a blue background on your subject. if it is paper. painted wall tv screen
perfect solid blue. no light. no shadows.
then you applly the xml, and tranitions further information may be obtained by reading the posts.



ALL YOUR XMLS IN THIS LINK===> tranistions and effects in alphabetical order <===All your XMLS IN THIS LINK!
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thank you in advance If I never say
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 15 Feb 2006 09:25 AM
Blaine explains it in his first post.

"Microsoft is plagued wth some sort of conspiracy and silence sourounding certain subjects..."
(When contacted for a reply Microsoft said,) "........ MIcrosoft does not comment on such rumours...."
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 01 Mar 2006 06:12 PM
I am having trouble with my blue screen. I have a painted wall
in my brothers room that is blue. When I film something and add
on the background, it doesn't work. I think it might be because of the lighting,
but I don't know. Please help me.
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 01 Mar 2006 07:18 PM
Have you got the order of the clips correct? Try switching the clips to see if it works the other way.

And is the wall lit well enough so that it is a fairly even blue color (not dark blue and not gray/white)? You need to avoid shadows and bright "hot spots" on the wall also.

Blue screening is very tricky, especially in WMM, so don't expect perfect results.

-=Blaine=-

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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 21 May 2006 09:00 PM
is there a way to make a animated backround like make it look like someone is under watr and like fish or bubbles flow?
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 21 May 2006 11:07 PM
Sure, just film your swimmer in front a blue screen, then use a video for the background (water, bubbles, whatever).

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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 22 May 2006 01:42 PM
I need a blue-coloured prop to be on set at the same time as the bluescreen.

How would I achieve this without causing the prop to be background-coloured?
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 23 May 2006 05:27 PM
I think if you make it a differnt shade or somthing it wont blend in and wont be part of the transition.
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 30 May 2006 01:02 AM
Ok when I first saw a thread about the blue screen, I thought I'd get information about what it is and what it does. The truth is, I don't understand. What's the purpose of having this blue screen and how is it supposed to work?
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 30 May 2006 01:07 AM
Blue screen is like having some just standing inside of a room but when u add the affect it can look like your under water. Basiclly its haveing a image/moving clip in the backround implace of the blue screen.Heres and example of a quick thing i made using(NOTE: i didnt use a bluescreen i used the sky in place of it.)it.....
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2730094
and this is my site...www.freewebs.com/shadowsunstudiosv3
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 30 May 2006 02:21 AM
Oh ok, I just tried using it again and now it looks better. Thanks.
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 30 May 2006 04:48 PM
no problem!
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 22 Jul 2006 10:50 PM
Hey,

I just joined the forum today because of this post. Thank you very much Blaine for the updated code. However, I do have a question that I hope can be answered by someone here.

Okay, the blue screen works... BUT, I was wondering, how do I actually use it in a full clip/scene? Or was the code provided only for an end transition that can only be seen for 1 - 2 seconds?

I'm trying to be able to use the blue screen the entire clip, but I can't do that because it makes me use the transition at the end of the clip, and it then switches immediately to the next.

Please help if you can!!!!! I'd appreciate it. :)
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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 22 Jul 2006 11:46 PM
you can overlap two adjacent clips all the way.... except for one frame... assuming the clip on the right is equal to or longer than the clip it's overlapping.

add some frames at the front and back that you can trim off as you do more editing later...

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Re: Improved Bluescreen transition
Posted: 24 Jul 2006 12:35 AM
I appreciate your response, PapaJohn. Unfortunately I'm still confused. I'm new to Movie Maker as well... just started using it a few days ago. So I have no clue regarding how to do "overlap two adjacent clips all the way."

I know you probably don't want to walk me step by step with it, but I'd really be grateful if you can tell me where to go?

Or if you want, you can link me to a tutorial that tells me how to do it.

I've tried extending the transition but it won't go any longer. I just don't understand how to get the bluescreen to stay in the entire clip, rather than just for a second at the end. :(
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