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Silencebound is not online. Last active: 3/1/2017 3:11:51 AM Silencebound
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I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 11 Aug 2014 03:17 AM
I'm a newbie on this WMM forum, as I am a Professional 35mm Nitrate Film restoration personal along with the fantastic WMM software which all of my fourteen lost 35mm films in it's fragment versions was fully uploaded to YouTube in 1080p video presentation by your software which connects to it. These 14 videos gave the 35mm movies a big superb kick but I am not fully satisfied with badly-paced moving levelness of the models walking almost 'unnatural' motion. The main reason why the frame duration is not right with 25 F.P.S. ( Frame Per Second ) when most 35mm motion picture films is usually projects at 24 F.P.S.. The WMM's time image/frame duration that have THREE DIGITS only being typed in 'Duration' icon - but where's four digits ??!!?? The 3 digits in WMM software that only have 0.04 ( 25 fps ), 0.05 ( 20 fps ) and 0.06 per frame ( only 16.75 fps ), but I'm still unsatisfyed so why not the 0.042 per frame ???!!!??!??!!?? If the new 4-digits is introduced for this WMM software, then I can have the frames being running in normal motion of 24 fps before have my fragment works being uploaded to YT with natural-paced 24 fps as normal. And also I want the silent-era frame running to be done with 0.063 duration for exactly 16 fps speed. Please, I want you, the WMM technical staffs, to update and upgrade that damnin' existing version to get the four-digits duration to be fully implemented. PLEASE DO IT RIGHT NOW !! Well, see my 14 videos that done by WMM software at YouTube :- Just type "Lost 35mm Nitrate Film FOUND !", to find out what it meant to you, WMM technical personnels.

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 11 Aug 2014 12:17 PM
I suggest submitting this at feedback.live.com. These are forums for other users of Movie Maker and I doubt that Microsoft will see your message here.

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 11 Aug 2014 11:43 PM
I have already told about this matter about a month ago, BUT they even don't understand at my sincere request to update it. I was told that I have to go and call them by phone. I can't, as I am in Australia and am deaf. So, how by ?? The WMM technical staff personnal wasn't there, so what's the heck ?!?

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 12 Aug 2014 02:16 AM
Have you tried creating a custom setting for saving your movie in 24 fps?

When you go to File > Save movie, rather than picking from one of the canned output profiles, scroll to the bottom of the list and find 'Create Custom Setting'. Choose the dimensions, bitrate and frame rate and give it a name. Now go back and choose File > Save movie again. This time the second to last item will be your new profile.

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 12 Aug 2014 08:18 AM
Okay, I'll try and find out if that work or not. Well, I will let you know after when I'm done with that update myself. TA.

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 12 Aug 2014 10:44 AM
Thanks for the instruction you posted me. No, it doesn't work ! Not just '24 fps' implemented in that "File > Save movie". It's nothing BUT I just want all the still images being moving in motion just by make all the still images with 24 fps by 0.042 per every one frame as I WANT THE IMAGE "DURATION" ADJUSTING TO 0.042 !! That is very easy and adjustable, rather than entering at 'File > Save movie' mode. I have done that Duration time adjustment very well without any problem at all - But why it only have three digits with only '0.06', '0.05' and '0.04' ? So where's FOUR numerical digits is ?? The WMM software has rejected '0.042' frame duration adjusted and got only '0.04' per frame ! That '0.04' digits gave the frames motion to be exactly 25 fps that I don't prefer that motion speed ! I knew that WMM technical staffs are supposed to update that Duration numerical digits from 3 to 4. I am awaiting for further instruction especially updating this current WMM version.

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 15 Aug 2014 11:24 PM
Please give me WMM creater's E-mail address now so that I want to be in closer touch with them.

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 16 Aug 2014 02:00 AM
Again, these forums are just for users of Movie Maker. There are no representatives from Microsoft here. You might have more luck asking in the Microsoft Community Forums. There's a link in the following post: view post 242841.

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 16 Aug 2014 12:14 PM
Silencebound, I don't know what WMM you are using but on WMM 2.1 that uses .prx files you can edit the frame rate to whatever rate you want. you can use Profile editor or notepad.
There is this line in the file: avgtimeperframe
for 24fps its avgtimeperframe="416666"
for 16fps, avgtimeperframe="625000"

But I wonder will UT keeps your frame rates?

- As I'm interested with silent movies, can you give me a link to your work?
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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 16 Aug 2014 11:00 PM
Well, yes, please kindly view all my lost film fragments on 35mm format at YouTube :- Just type "Lost 35mm Nitrate Film FOUND !" there and then you're good to go - I've released newest # 15 lost film early this morning.
I will have a more closer look at the .prx files, and will let you know what happen is in order. Thanx. Robert.

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 16 Aug 2014 11:08 PM
And especially see my demonstration video at YT titled "Simple Restoration of 35mm Nitrate Film" that mainly focused at WMM software with Duration status there. Might that will help you to giving your saying about the duration element. That video just only running for 8 mins.

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 17 Aug 2014 02:01 AM
A M A Z I N G !!
Terrific work Robert.
But I wonder why don't you scan strips of 5-6 frames at a time and than crop the needed frame.
I don't know "paint" but I guess there are other free photo edit software out there that will let you save a predefined rectangular for the croped size, you than just place it and crop.

- I checked your #2 & #3 and the UT HD clips are at 29.97FPS

- I never tried to load stills to WMM 2.1 , so I did it this morning. There I could go only as down as 0.125 or ~9FPS
On the other hand one can use half the frame rate and than re-encode it with double the speed.

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 17 Aug 2014 02:03 AM
From your first description and from one of your YouTube videos on how you make your restoration videos, I can see you are using one of the later versions of Movie Maker. My steps for creating a custom profile should be the ones you should use. The steps for Windows XP do not apply.

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 17 Aug 2014 02:12 AM
For making videos out of lots of images (essentially one image per frame), rather than using Movie Maker (which isn't really designed to go that low for frame rate), you might want to look into Picasa.

You can put all your pictures in a single folder and then use Picasa to create a movie from that. To do that, select all the images, then choose Create > Movie. Pick a transition style of "Time Lapse" which will let you set the slide duration to a small value like 1/24 second.

See the following screenshot:
Picasa 3 - Create Movie (Time Lapse).



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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 17 Aug 2014 03:45 AM
Robert, take a look at this
StylePix screenshot

I used the very powerful freeware Stylepix
Although I didn't find how to save the shape, once it defined it can be easily move and be placed anywhere on the image with the precision of the arrow keys

Edit#2
I think I found a better solution 4 U, take a look at the free MonkeyJam
with this freeware I was able to import sequential JPG's and by setting MonkeyJam to 16FPS and at 1 frame hold, I rendered a true uncompressed 16fps AVI. Than you can convert it to whatever more manageable format you need.
Give it a go and let us know

(I'm sorry, I can't recall how to post here URL's)

Moderator: updated links to make them clickable.

Tnx CG

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 18 Aug 2014 08:47 PM
"Monkeyjam" sound a good promise, but the downloading is the big problem as it won't access to my computer due to their current old version as my com is Windows 8.1 version. Any other software most similar to MJ ?

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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 19 Aug 2014 01:57 AM
I'm sorry, can't help you on that.
I'm still with XP which runs far better than my recent tries of running 7 (dual boot) on my i5 4GB ram comp.
I know nothing about 8.1 but doesn't it has some kind of compatibility mode where it will run older stuff?

- I viewed all you UT silents, great work
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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 19 Aug 2014 02:15 AM
Update...
How about this one?
zoetrope

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Silencebound is not online. Last active: 3/1/2017 3:11:51 AM Silencebound
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Re: I WANT FOUR DIGITS, NOT THREE !!!
Posted: 19 Aug 2014 07:05 AM
Yep, Have it downloaded of the Zoetrope, but seemingly rather bit limited as the operation is bit confused as it won't open the file folder. But 24 fps is good, but . . .

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