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crumbnumber1 is not online. Last active: 11/16/2006 9:41:14 PM crumbnumber1
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EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 03 Aug 2005 04:42 PM
Why cant it just be done!
freedoggy77 is not online. Last active: 3/8/2006 11:48:02 AM freedoggy77
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 04 Aug 2005 11:10 AM
I WANT A REVERSE EFFECT!

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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 04 Aug 2005 02:47 PM
I agree we need one I spent a long time looking how to do that to a video clip all over the internet for a couple of days but I still couldnt find something that did that. So that would be great if they had that.

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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 04 Aug 2005 08:42 PM
It is indeed one of the most frequently asked quesiton and I would urge for the designers of the new version to accomodate this feature it in the new version...

Till then use my simple method to do so or use the french utility Video Time Reversal.

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zero_signal is not online. Last active: 8/31/2005 9:02:24 AM zero_signal
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 08 Aug 2005 03:05 AM
Yeah this feature definitely should be offered in WMM. I have to use a completely different video editing program (which is only a trial version) to reverse video and/or audio. I don't know what to use thereafter.
rickmar_92 is not online. Last active: 11/12/2006 6:35:07 PM rickmar_92
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 11 Aug 2005 03:04 PM
i agree 2. though i can still do that. my mini dv camcorder can let u watch a clip reversed. (i use that to amaze my 3 year old brother whose a big fan of star wars. he thinks he has the force.) i just capture the video reversed. but my last film never got made because there was a problem with capturing it reversed. and when the camera moves, the picture kinda pixelates. (that's always happened.) it wud be much easier if reverse effect was 1 of the video effects. it'd be cool if the sound was played backward 2.
weekutch is not online. Last active: 3/2/2007 8:52:49 PM weekutch
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 02 Oct 2005 03:17 PM
I would love this too!
thug_outlaw69 is not online. Last active: 4/1/2006 8:13:46 PM thug_outlaw69
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 23 Oct 2005 10:16 AM
I think that this would be a great feature in Windows Movie Maker.
Alpha Quagmire is not online. Last active: 4/9/2006 3:44:30 PM Alpha Quagmire
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 10 Nov 2005 03:02 PM
I DO!!
I MEAN I WANT ONE TOO!!

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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 18 Nov 2005 11:38 AM
When will the new version be released? And how can we make sure it will be on it!?
zero is not online. Last active: 7/25/2006 2:22:37 PM zero
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 06 Dec 2005 08:26 AM
YES A REVERSE EFFECT WOULD BE WONDERFUL!!!!!!

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pftsobfreak is not online. Last active: 2/9/2011 3:52:29 AM pftsobfreak
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 15 Dec 2005 11:08 PM
With all the masters making their own effects, why is it not possible to just make a reverse effect?

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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 16 Dec 2005 02:02 AM
It's easy enough to modify one of the existing effects, but to create a whole new effect takes work. Plus, it would mean dealing with the frames in reverse order. Perhaps someone like Rehan will solve this, but in the meantime, you can use VirtualDub/AviSynth and the instructions on www.rehanfx.org to do it.

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Rehan is not online. Last active: 5/8/2012 5:49:17 PM Rehan
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 16 Dec 2005 10:22 AM
The framework provided by WMM for building custom plugins has some limitations which do not allow to do this effect... A plugin gets one frame at a time to do its stuff on that frame. There is no way to seek forward to obtain the last frame first etc. Once the last frame is submitted, there is no opportunity to go back. So an effect can only work in forward direction.

My best approach so far is to "reflect" the clip relative to the middle frame... by buffering up all the frames and then overwriting them in reverse order on the 2nd half of the clip.

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walkjac is not online. Last active: 3/23/2006 3:00:49 AM walkjac
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 22 Mar 2006 12:13 AM
So... Couldn't you just temporarily double the length of the clip (add blank space to the end I suppose), run this mirror algorithm, then delete the first half of the clip?

I'm guessing that since that's so easy, though, it must be impossible to make a plugin that doubles the length and/or deletes half the clip?
Rehan is not online. Last active: 5/8/2012 5:49:17 PM Rehan
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 23 Mar 2006 06:28 PM
Yes that is the problem... the custom plugin never sees the whole clip, it only get to see one frame at a time.

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zero is not online. Last active: 7/25/2006 2:22:37 PM zero
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 30 Mar 2006 04:47 AM
YES I AGREEEEEE

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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 24 Apr 2006 03:38 PM
I was pondering through the MSDN article on making custom transitions and effect, helplessly trying to find any effect I could tweak to make the reverse effect. I decide to try the Speed effect (I changed the speed param to "-1.0" hoping that it would reverse it as the range said greater than 0.0). I didn't think it would work (and I was right). It just sped the clip up very, very fast!

Blaine,

When you said it's very hard to make a new effect, does that mean making a new effect is actually possible?
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 25 Apr 2006 01:53 PM
New effects and transitions are possible, if you read through the article. Most of what people do here is tweak the existing transitions/effects available in WMM or in DirectX... but you can create your own. It requires knowing DirectX and having a C++ compiler, the appropriate DirectX SDK libraries, etc.

Rehan's done this before with his PIP+ and Pan & Zoom packages. So if you find programming easy, then it is easy. If you find programming hard, it is hard. Smiley

For the Reverse effect, unfortunately the architecture of the video engine is such that you get the frames in order, one at a time... there is no way to do a random access to a specific frame to get them in reverse order. If anyone could work around this, Rehan probably would have done it... so I'd say the Reverse effect won't be possible within WMM as it currently stands.

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zero is not online. Last active: 7/25/2006 2:22:37 PM zero
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 25 Apr 2006 11:09 PM
So disappointing!

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DanielleOfSLC is not online. Last active: 5/21/2008 2:15:09 AM DanielleOfSLC
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 21 May 2006 04:49 PM
Oh oh oh oh oh!! I want a reverse effect too!!
I know this is an old post ... but I thought I'd let everyone know that I want one too!! LOL

Danielle

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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 17 Aug 2006 07:03 AM
I would like one as well, it would make a lot of movies look a lot more professional.
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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 17 Aug 2006 11:00 PM
Not sure I've seen a lot of "professional" movies with reverse effects.
Actually I think such effects shout "home-movie" rather than "professional", just as the overuse of fancy transitions (although George Lucas seemed to get away with it in the later Star Wars moives).
I use reverse video myself mainly to amuse my kids.

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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 14 Nov 2006 01:34 PM
I usually see them on America's Funniest Home videos, after something terrible happens or breaks, or skate board movies.

Nothing professional in movies, maybe time travel stuff.

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Re: EVERYBODY WANT A REVERSE EFFECT
Posted: 28 Dec 2006 05:17 PM
Their is a program called LSMaker where you can reverse your film. i use this program for movies where i "use the force" and the program also doubles as a lightsaber maker. its a very handy program.


this is the site address: http://lsmaker.uw.hu/page.php?main=main.html

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