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Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 02 Aug 2005 07:15 PM
Hey can someone tell me how I could create a subtitle in the bottom left(or right) corner with the text fading in and then fading out? I looked through MM2 only to find a subtitle that sits a little lower than the middle and everything else covers the screen too much. Thanks in advance.
P.S. sometimes when I'm putting clips on the timeline and clicking on different clips to edit them(on the time line) and when I try to play the movie, MM2 slows down, almost to a stop sometimes...I have a hyper threading 2.8GHZ, 1GB ram, and a geforce 6600GT, so how come this happens with me? Thanks again for all the help. Sorry if this has been covered previously.
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 02 Aug 2005 07:17 PM
Sorry I forgot to mention that the text can be smaller, so it's not really distracting, I just want it subtle, thank you.
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 02 Aug 2005 07:32 PM
You can create a couple custom subtitles if you like.

First make sure you have a C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared\AddOnTFX folder. If you don't create one.

Next copy the following code into Notepad (All Programs > Accessories > Notepad).

<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0">
<Titles>
<TitleDLL guid="{353359C1-39E1-491b-9951-464FD8AB071C}">
<Title name="Subtitle Left (fade in/out)" iconid="13" >
<Param name="InternalName" value="TitleStandard"/>
<Param name="Description" value="Subtitle Left (fade in/out)"/>
<Param name="EntranceEffect" value="EffectFade"/>
<Param name="EntranceDuration" value="1.0"/>
<Param name="ExitEffect" value="EffectFade"/>
<Param name="ExitDuration" value="1.0"/>
<Paragraph>
<Param name="IsOneLine" value="true"/>
<Param name="HorizontalAlignment" value="left"/>
<Param name="BoundingRect" value="0.05 0.85 0.9 0.1"/>
</Paragraph>
</Title>
<Title name="Subtitle Right (fade in/out)" iconid="13" >
<Param name="InternalName" value="TitleStandard"/>
<Param name="Description" value="Subtitle Right (fade in/out)"/>
<Param name="EntranceEffect" value="EffectFade"/>
<Param name="EntranceDuration" value="1.0"/>
<Param name="ExitEffect" value="EffectFade"/>
<Param name="ExitDuration" value="1.0"/>
<Paragraph>
<Param name="IsOneLine" value="true"/>
<Param name="HorizontalAlignment" value="right"/>
<Param name="BoundingRect" value="0.05 0.85 0.9 0.1"/>
</Paragraph>
</Title>
</TitleDLL>
</Titles>
</TransitionsAndEffects>


Save this in C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared\AddOnTFX as SubFade.xml. Note: the .xml extension is important. Make sure that it saves as .xml, not .xml.txt

Restart Windows Movie Maker and you should have two new One-line Titles you can choose called:
Subtitle Right (fade in/out)
Subtitle Left (fade in/out)

Let me know how it goes and if you need further help using the subtitles.

-=Blaine=-

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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 02 Aug 2005 10:20 PM
thanks that did it, thanks alot, awesome. thank you thank you! This site rules period.
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 11 Sep 2005 12:48 AM
Very informative and clear instructions Blaine :)

Thank you so much as you've saved me so much time from searching or learning how to do this by experimenting with code tweaks on my own.

-v/r,

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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 14 Oct 2005 07:10 AM
Hello Blaine

thanks for the advice you gave in this post. It worked like a charm and now I have both subtitles fading as well.
I would like to know whether it is possible to tweak an existing one-line title of movie maker, or if you can help with setting up the desired one-line title. The existing one-line title in question is the Ticker Tape one.
I would like to lower the ticker tape to the bottom of the videoclip and not quartermast as it is currently. This will give it a real subtitle effect.

Can you please help? Thanks

Jacobus
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 14 Oct 2005 11:35 AM
Actually, I can do better than that. I'll point you to www.rehanfx.org (Rehan's website). He was one of the first people to document the ability to modify titles and at the bottom of his page on custom titles he has a 'CNN Style Ticker Tape' which is at the bottom of the screen.

Note: on some TVs you may find that the Ticker Tape ends up partially in the "overscan" area. Computers will show the full screen.

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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 14 Nov 2005 11:53 PM
Hello --

I was looking for some code for a text overlay that sort of mixes the lower subtitle and the CNN ticker. I'm trying to get some left justified text that does not move appear on top of a colored bar (preferable a blue bar). I'd like the text and the bar to fade in and out at the same time as low as possible on the screen. Thanks.
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 16 Sep 2006 11:08 AM
erm i was wondering if you could maybe do this with more than 1 line? If so, then plz tll all. thnx
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 22 Sep 2006 12:55 AM
Hey, I also did this and it worked great, however is there a way u can raise it just a small bit. I winded shooting in widescreen and now the text is half on the film half on the black bars...If there is a way to raise it just a little bit that would be great...thanks
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 22 Sep 2006 07:34 AM
<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0">
<Titles>
<TitleDLL guid="{353359C1-39E1-491b-9951-464FD8AB071C}">
<Title name="Subtitle Left (fade in/out)" iconid="13" >
<Param name="InternalName" value="TitleStandard"/>
<Param name="Description" value="Subtitle Left (fade in/out)"/>
<Param name="EntranceEffect" value="EffectFade"/>
<Param name="EntranceDuration" value="1.0"/>
<Param name="ExitEffect" value="EffectFade"/>
<Param name="ExitDuration" value="1.0"/>
<Paragraph>
<Param name="IsOneLine" value="true"/>
<Param name="HorizontalAlignment" value="left"/>
<Param name="BoundingRect" value="0.05 0.85 0.9 0.1"/>
</Paragraph>
</Title>
<Title name="Subtitle Right (fade in/out)" iconid="13" >
<Param name="InternalName" value="TitleStandard"/>
<Param name="Description" value="Subtitle Right (fade in/out)"/>
<Param name="EntranceEffect" value="EffectFade"/>
<Param name="EntranceDuration" value="1.0"/>
<Param name="ExitEffect" value="EffectFade"/>
<Param name="ExitDuration" value="1.0"/>
<Paragraph>
<Param name="IsOneLine" value="true"/>
<Param name="HorizontalAlignment" value="right"/>
<Param name="BoundingRect" value="0.05 0.85 0.9 0.1"/>
</Paragraph>
</Title>
</TitleDLL>
</Titles>
</TransitionsAndEffects>


Just reduce the number that is in bold... try 0.70, 0.75, 0.80, etc. to see which number works for you...

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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 23 Sep 2006 08:11 PM
Thanks alot, this helps me out a whole bunch.
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 02 Jan 2008 07:34 AM
I tried all that but no new one-line titles appeared. Can you post a screen shot showing where they are supposed to appear? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 02 Jan 2008 11:53 AM
This is for XP, so that's the first caveat.

Then go to:
Tools > Titles & Credits

Choose 'change title animation' and you should find them under one-line titles.




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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 09 Jan 2008 10:32 AM
is there anyway to make this so it has say...3 lines stacked up instead of one?

Like:

Title
artist
album

(I'm doing a video for a friends band)
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 09 Jan 2008 12:19 PM
Several relevant posts for doing a "music video style title"
view post 13265
view post 48004
view post 73095

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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 09 Jan 2008 01:38 PM
Thank you very much. That was exactly what I needed.Smiley

I'm so excited, this is the first time I've gotten one of the xml things to work :)
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 24 Feb 2008 01:26 AM
hey guys! just a basic question I don't know much about movie maker I have to admit and i'm not sure if one of you already answered this.

basically I want the subtitles I add to my movies to appear a little lower on the screen (right now they are a little too close to the middle which blocks the main point of the screen) how can I lower them?
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 24 Feb 2008 02:18 AM
Just look a few posts up... where I mention 0.85. If you make it bigger, it will go down more on the screen.

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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 24 Feb 2008 04:32 PM
So we only change both .85's correct? I changed it all the way up to 4.00 and the subtitles still show up in the same part of the screen as before. Am I doing something wrong?
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 24 Feb 2008 04:42 PM
I should mention that I am not using the new subtitles that you provided in your text file. I am just trying to lower where the subtitles appear on the screen (the subtitle option that comes loaded in moviemaker)
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 24 Feb 2008 09:19 PM
First, values should never go beyond 0 or 1. They are a percentage of the screen. 0.85 is 85% of the way down. 4.00 would be 400% or off the screen.

Also, if you aren't using the ones provided above, then obviously changing values for them won't have any effect on the standard subtitle.

Instead you want to create a custom version of the standard subtitle, just lower.
Check this post:
view post 36659

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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 07 May 2008 05:01 PM
This works a treat on XP in 2008 - but LowerSubtitle.xml didn't!

I'll be lucky if I get a reply to this post, 3 yrs later . . . but how instead of the susbtitles being left / or right, how can I centre the lower subtitles with this code?

Thanks

Kevin
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 08 May 2008 05:45 PM
Hi. When you are in the titles and credits area, click on ''change the text font and color''....in that section you can change the font, the color, the size, and on the right side the position of the title....just click there to make it align left, center, or right.
Have fun.
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Music video titles
Posted: 22 May 2008 10:26 AM
I need multiple lines (3 or more) on the bottom left corner of the screen, in a small size, no banner, fade in/out. The lines are close to each other, like what you see in a random music video. None of the referenced posts seem to mention or have all of those effects. What do I do?
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Re: Music video titles
Posted: 22 May 2008 05:05 PM
Try out the various subtitles at view post 36395. The lower subtitle and lower basic title are good ones for positioning a music video title. Have fun.
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Re: Music video titles
Posted: 22 May 2008 11:28 PM
I know nothing about these xml codes, is there a way to make the font smaller? I can't seem to change it.
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Re: Music video titles
Posted: 22 May 2008 11:40 PM
I told you, it doesn't have all the effects I wanted, fade in/out, and smaller font size. I'm not able to fix this myself. Give me the exact code, please.
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Re: Music video titles
Posted: 23 May 2008 12:09 AM
Really small font size like this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rrateaKDdPs
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Re: Music video titles
Posted: 23 May 2008 12:56 AM
Here is an example I made from the xml code below...one is 'fading subtitle' and then 'low fading subtitle'. The size is set by the font size in the code, so you can set it smaller if you like.

LowerLeftMusicVideo

...this is the code...good luck

<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0">
<Titles>
<TitleDLL guid="{353359C1-39E1-491b-9951-464FD8AB071C}">
<Title name="Fading Subtitle" iconid="13">
<Param name="InternalName" value="TitleStandard"/>
<Param name="Description" value="Fading Subtitle at bottom (overlay)"/>
<Paragraph>
<Param name="EntranceDuration" value="0.4"/>
<Param name="EntranceEffect" value="EffectFade"/>
<Param name="ExitDuration" value="0.4"/>
<Param name="ExitEffect" value="EffectFade"/>
<Param name="ShadowOutline" value="Outline"/>
<Param name="BoundingRect" value="0.1 0.4 0.8 0.45"/>
<Param name="FontSize" value="18"/>
<Param name="MaxCharacterCount" value="256"/>
<Param name="VerticalAlignment" value="Bottom"/>
</Paragraph>
</Title>
<Title name="Low Fading Subtitle" iconid="13">
<Param name="InternalName" value="TitleStandard"/>
<Param name="Description" value="Fading Subtitle at the very bottom (overlay)"/>
<Paragraph>
<Param name="EntranceDuration" value="0.4"/>
<Param name="EntranceEffect" value="EffectFade"/>
<Param name="ExitDuration" value="0.4"/>
<Param name="ExitEffect" value="EffectFade"/>
<Param name="ShadowOutline" value="Outline"/>
<Param name="BoundingRect" value="0.1 0.5 0.8 0.45"/>
<Param name="FontSize" value="18"/>
<Param name="MaxCharacterCount" value="256"/>
<Param name="VerticalAlignment" value="Bottom"/>
</Paragraph>
</Title>
</TitleDLL>
</Titles>
</TransitionsAndEffects>
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Re: Music video titles
Posted: 23 May 2008 04:28 AM
What's the smallest size? No matter how low I set, it doesn't look any different.
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Re: Music video titles
Posted: 23 May 2008 10:04 AM
Don't know, the smallest size I got shows on the video. Someone who works with xml with have to help to edit it.
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 31 May 2008 02:55 PM
heyv is there a way to do subtitles on widescreen videos so that there is a line of text on the top black bar and a line on the bottom black bar that way there is not any text on the actual video part please help
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 12 Aug 2008 04:53 AM
I want the title to look just like in this video. Basically the size have to be that small and there's little or no space between the lines.
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 06 Dec 2008 05:50 AM
Hi Blaine
I am also trying to create a custom title - actually a subtitle that sits centre at the bottom of the page. Someone rom this forum kindly gave me a code to use (I've not used add ons before so is a little confusing for me). But first I was using information from other threads to learn more about it, and you said to first to create a 'TFX' folder which I have. I have copied and pasted the code he gave me into a notepad like you said, but it is only giving me the option to save it as a txt file and nothing else. Do you know how i can resolve this? Thanks if you reply!
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 06 Dec 2008 09:00 AM
Hi carthr, welcome to the forum. When you save it from notepad, give it a name with .xml as the extension. And then for the format, choose 'all files'...it would be your only other choice than txt file. After you save it, you can go into the AddOnTFX folder and see (in thumbnail view) that the icon looks like all the other xml's. Have fun.
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 06 Dec 2008 04:18 PM
Thanks a lot! I have done what you say, with a couple of codes, succesfully creating .xml extention files. I know I did it right because Ive spent all day reading about it and watching online tutorials!! However, when I go into movie maker it's just not there!! Why??!! (I thought maybe I also need to download windows media but it's not working saying the server was disconnected or something.) Please help! I feel I'm nearly there with the basic xml's!
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 06 Dec 2008 05:06 PM
Hi...if you have successfully done some codes and find them in Movie Maker you are doing it right. If the new ones are saved and are the same as those xml's in the AddOnTFX folder then you should find them in Movie Maker. Be certain you are looking in the right place...some are effects, some are transitions, and others are titles. You can see the name in the code...that is what you look for inside Movie Maker. The 'titles' on this page are code for XP, so these are not for Vista. There are a large number of xml codes at view post 126998 if that is the case. Have fun.
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 28 Apr 2009 03:18 PM
Looks like this thread may be long dead. If anyone is there, could sure use some advice.

I am Technically Challenged. I have a nonprofit organization that helps Iraqi refugees. I've taken some video interviews of refugees and want to use them for presentations. I am pretty comfortable with Windows Movie Maker and am getting pretty much what I want - until now, when I need to do English language subtitles to translate from the Arabic.

As many other posters complained, the subtitles on WMM are placed too high. I want them lower on the frames so they don't distract from the actual video.

So I faithfully followed your instructions and pasted the html into Wordpad, after first creating the new AddOnTFX file in "shared" in WMM. I tried saving into that new file, titling it as Subfade.xml and then I get the message that I do not have permission to go into that folder and must get it from the Administrator.

WT???????

I know my lack of comprehension of things-tech causes me to miss or screw up on things sometimes but I know I followed your instructions to a T.

Anyone know how I can get past this restriction?

*Even better yet, does anyone know where I can just d/l a WMM file that will give me a way to make subtitles low on the vid and preferably on a black "ticker tape" background - without me having to mess with codes, restricted access and being scared I will accidently kill something in my laptop when I mess with these things?*
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Re: Hey question about subtitles
Posted: 29 Apr 2009 02:12 AM
Hi there, welcome to the forum.

A couple of things to mention....first it is good that you created the AddOnTFX folder inside the 'shared' folder. However, when you save the xml code (not html), you must paste and save the code from Notepad (not Wordpad).

The codes you likely tried are for XP and not for Vista. It sounds like you have a Vista system. The way to tell which system the code is for is by looking at the version in the first line(s). If it says 1.0 it is for XP, and 2.8 is for Vista. So, if you have Vista, you must use code that is for that version. If you have Vista, go to the thread I linked in the post just before yours above. There are a number of sub-title titles there which will provide you with more practice on how to do this. Also, in Vista the procedure is slightly different, since you need to save the xml to a folder or destop first. Then you copy and paste it into the AddOnTFX folder....you don't save directly into it as you do with XP. I have XP, so don't know much about the many codes for titles that are available....but check out the thread view post 126998.

If you have XP, let me know. I can give you what is called the 'glorified title'. That code provides for a dark but mostly transparent background at the bottom of the frame upon which you place your words. Good luck.
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