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carefree chris is not online. Last active: 7/18/2007 3:16:13 PM carefree chris
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Another challenge! ;-) Marquee effect with video
Posted: 25 Feb 2005 09:06 PM
What I could really use, is an effect/transition where a scaled-down video (about 1/4 size of the full screen window) moves from left to right, or right to left, top to bottom or bottom to top (basically from one side to it's opposite). It would be best if it took the video 4 seconds to complete the scroll. It would also be preferable if the video is intially hidden, but then appears when it scrolls in from the side, and then disappears out the other side. Oh, and even better if the edges of the video were soft, so it gives it a classier feel.

I know it's a lot to ask, but if that were possible, then that would be absolutely fantastic! If anyone does attempt this, thankyou so much for the help!
carefree chris is not online. Last active: 7/18/2007 3:16:13 PM carefree chris
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Re: Another challenge! ;-) Marquee effect with video
Posted: 25 Feb 2005 09:07 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention that the background would be a simple picture. Cheers again.
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Re: Another challenge! ;-) Marquee effect with video
Posted: 26 Feb 2005 07:07 AM
Have you tried Rehan's new PIP+.
It should be able to do this.

I use Firefox+Greasemonkey scripts for easier editing of forum posts, FAQs and displaying embedded images Wink
carefree chris is not online. Last active: 7/18/2007 3:16:13 PM carefree chris
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Re: Another challenge! ;-) Marquee effect with video
Posted: 26 Feb 2005 08:42 AM
I did try using Pip+, but I didn't have a clue, as I would need to make a new transition using the code, but I don't have a clue how to do it (I don't know what all th enumbers signify).
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Re: Another challenge! ;-) Marquee effect with video
Posted: 26 Feb 2005 10:17 AM
Hi,
You said: "scaled-down video"
Shrunk or "flattened and squished" or "flattend and cut off?"
I may not be the best candidate, but perhaps a tutorial
would be the best idea. I know...you want a transition
not a lessen, but it is more fun tinkering with it. I think
that is the only reason I haven't broke down and bought
another editor. Oh well, enough opinion. I will offer a
simple start...but I am afraid I can't describe this much
better than Rehan already has.

PIP+101
Step 1 - Window A
What will window A be doing? In your case nothing. It will
sit in the background, while a window B slides by. So....

<Param name="RectA" value=" 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 1.0, 0.0;
...............................................1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 1.0, 0.0;"

*I added the ..... to line up the colums. Do not cut and paste
this into your XML file.

The 1st number is the time within the transition...time 0.0 in the
first line is the start, 1.0 in the second line indicate the end of the transition.
You just add more time lines to control activity during the life of the
transition. Say .20,.40,.60,.80 could add complexity. This one is simple.
In this case, for window A, time is all that changes. The 2nd parm
is postition from left edge, and the 3rd parm is position from top
edge. So it starts at 0.0,0.0(top, left). Parm 4 is width, Parm 5 is
height. In this case, your window fills up the screen, so no reduction
in size. It starts as 1.0,1.0, and it ends as 1.0,1.0. The last Parm
is a little trickier, it indicates who gets to be out front. So in this
case, leave it at 0.0

Ok...so lets leave it here for now and see if you can figure it out,
but we won't leave you hanging forever. Post your RectB if
you figure it out. Here are some hints:
If you go with a 1/2 size window from left to right:
Your window will start at time 0.0 with a negative value
on the left border of -0.5, and finish time 1.0 with a value of 1.0
It's width and height will be 0.5,0.5. The last parm will be 1.0,
because it gets to be out front. You can come up with
the position from the top .

Hope this helps, and doesnt confuse it further.
dlk
carefree chris is not online. Last active: 7/18/2007 3:16:13 PM carefree chris
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Re: Another challenge! ;-) Marquee effect with video
Posted: 26 Feb 2005 12:02 PM
Ok, I have had a pop, and I cam eup with this:

<Param name="RectA" value="0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 1.0, 0.0;
1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 1.0, 0.0;" />

<Param name="RectB" value="0.0, -0.5, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 0.0;
0.25, 0.125, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.375, 0.1875, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.5, 0.25, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.625, 0.3125, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.75, 0.375, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
1.0, 1.0, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 0.0;" />
carefree chris is not online. Last active: 7/18/2007 3:16:13 PM carefree chris
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Re: Another challenge! ;-) Marquee effect with video
Posted: 26 Feb 2005 12:06 PM
And also:

<Transition name="Pip+ Marquee Video R to L" iconid="0">
<Param name="RectA" value="0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 1.0, 0.0;
1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 1.0, 0.0;" />

<Param name="RectB" value="0.0, 1.0, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 0.0;
0.25, 0.375, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.375, 0.3125, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.5, 0.25, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.625, 0.1875, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.75, 0.125, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
1.0, -0.5, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 0.0;" />
</Transition>
carefree chris is not online. Last active: 7/18/2007 3:16:13 PM carefree chris
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Re: Another challenge! ;-) Marquee effect with video
Posted: 26 Feb 2005 12:19 PM
<Transition name="Pip+ Marquee Video T to B" iconid="0">
<Param name="RectA" value="0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 1.0, 0.0;
1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 1.0, 0.0;" />

<Param name="RectB" value="0.0, 0.25, -0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.0;
0.25, 0.25, 0.125, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.375, 0.25, 0.1875, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.5, 0.25, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.625, 0.25, 0.3125, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.75, 0.25, 0.375, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
1.0, 0.25, 1.0, 0.5, 0.5, 0.0;" />
</Transition>

<Transition name="Pip+ Marquee Video B to T" iconid="0">
<Param name="RectA" value="0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 1.0, 0.0;
1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 1.0, 0.0;" />

<Param name="RectB" value="0.0, 0.25, 1.0, 0.5, 0.5, 0.0;
0.25, 0.25, 0.375, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.375, 0.25, 0.3125, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.5, 0.25, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.625, 0.25, 0.1875, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
0.75, 0.25, 0.125, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0;
1.0, 0.25, -0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.0;" />
</Transition>
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Re: Another challenge! ;-) Marquee effect with video
Posted: 26 Feb 2005 03:32 PM
By Jove...I think he's got it!
They all seem to work! So now you have everything
you want...plus the know how to tweek them as you
please. I see you added a little slow down in the
middle to give the viewer a chance to focus on what
is scrollng by. I think that is what a real marquee does.


So...I could add a bit more on advanced movement,
but I don't know if it's even necessary.

dlk
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Re: Another challenge! ;-) Marquee effect with video
Posted: 26 Feb 2005 05:14 PM
Well, any advice or help on anyhting more advanced would be apreciated. I might be able to contribute more then.
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Re: Another challenge! ;-) Marquee effect with video
Posted: 26 Feb 2005 06:21 PM
Hi,

First off...it's obvious I need spelling 101!
tweak...lesson..and whatever others I haven't noticed.
Sheesh!!!

Now, PIP+Advanced
(actually, none of this is too advanced,
but we can humor ourselves)

The cool stuff is when RectA and RectB are moving
on their own independent paths, each with different
sizes. When both RectA and RectB are reduced, there
are empty spaces on the screen. So in the words
of Pink Floyd, you must ask yourself; "Now what shall
we use to fill the empty spaces?" The "background parm"
controls the color or PNG image that will fill those
empty spaces. Since I am comfortable with hex, and
there is a hex calculator in Windows(some do it
in their heads.). I just use the hex format. I just use Movie
Maker's "make title" function to get the RGB values
for any unique color, and convert those values to hex,
and just plug them in. If you have tried chroma keying,
you probably know some standard RGB codes in hex

White:
<Param name="Background" value="0xFFFFFF" />
Black:
<Param name="Background" value="0x000000" />
Red
<Param name="Background" value="0xFF0000" />
Green
<Param name="Background" value="0x00FF00" />
Blue
<Param name="Background" value="0x0000FF" />

Rehan supports some other methods, and those
are well described on his website.
I think his default background color is red.

Now, the other interesting parm is the Z parm,
the last parm. Rehan described it as the
"Depth of the rectangle used to determine
overlap between A and B." I am not sure what
Rehan means by "depth", but I only understand
the binary meaning on this parm. 1 or 0. So
if the two windows occupy the same space,
the guy with a value of 1 will be in front.
I am almost thinking that a .5 and .5 should
create a merge...but that is not the way it
works for me.
So anyway...as your windows meet and cross,
that Parm determines which window we see,
and which window moves behind. This can
create some interesting transitions as
we see with Rehan's cross over sample.
This can also create some headaches as you
are trying to do some complex transitions.

That's about it.
Hope this adds some additional understanding.
dlk
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